Confused. Muse birds tweet "I'm meditating" while I'm reading and calculating?!


#1

I was under the impression that a “calm” mind while meditating was indicated by the delta wave and an “active” mind such as reading and calculating (mathematics) was indicated by non-delta waves (not sure which ones. Alpha?).

In other words, they are not the same mind state.

So how can I consistently and deliberately cause muse birds to chirp while I’m actively reading and performing mathematics? I can also “think thoughts” and not push them out of my mind and be in “delta wave” state as well.

Yes, I’ve done the typical meditation of focusing on the breath, silent chant, etc. which causes the muse birds to consistently chirp.

But I’ve also experimented and I can easily achieve start to finish “chirping” for a solid 10 minutes while reading, calculating and persistent thinking of images and narrative situations (while meditating).

Can someone please explain to me how this can happen? What do I not understand about waves and what the mind should be or not be doing?

At this moment, I wonder if the Muse is really doing what it claims.

Thank you for any help. I’d really like to believe in my Muse headband and continue to use it.


#2

From what I understand, and I’m not the expert, Muse calibrates the device during the first minute when it says it is reading your brainwaves. Then the calm/active states are calculated relative to that. They are not based solely on brainwaves. They are relative to your calibration. So if your brain is highly active during calibration it might be possible to get birds in a state relatively calm compared to that. I try to challenge myself by making the calibrated state as calm as possible then I have to go much deeper in my meditation to get birds.

If you want to see actual alpha, beta, theta, etc. waves and see how they jump up and down with various tasks. You can get the Muse Monitor app which shows you the separate brainwaves.


#3

That’s a very interesting point. I was discouraged after my findings but I’ll try what you do and calibrate in as a calm state as possible and then see whether or not the birds appear when I do “active” mental tasks. Thanks for the suggestion!


#4

Reading and calculating are states of concentration which are also alpha state


#5

I’d be interested to hear what happens. For me if I calibrate while calm it is more of a challenge to get the birds :slight_smile: